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#1: Fallout 4 Author: GaryBusey,

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:41 pm
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Anyone else literally losing their ever-lovin' minds and can't wait for this one to drop?

Love the Fallout series, can't get enough and can't wait for the new one - wish they'd launch an MMORPG but doubt that'll ever happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdm1WcFHvcw

Link to the trailer for anyone living in a cave that hasn't seen it.

- GB

#2: Re: Fallout 4 Author: SgtBaker, Location: OKC

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:50 pm
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I loved 3, and this looks pretty awesome. Maybe by the time I play New Vegas, it'll be cheap on a Steam sale Razz

#3: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Nickenstein,

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 5:37 am
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Short pre-rendered FMV video (No gameplay footage). ... Check

1 Screenshot (from that same FMV). ... Check

Zero game info. ... Check

No release date. ... Check

No minimum sys requirements. ... Check

£50 pre-order. ... Check

This is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the games industry!

#4: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Artorias, Location: Chicago

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:14 am
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My thoughts exactly Nick. As much as I love Fallout, I'm not going to be preordering until I know more about it. Witcher did a good job of teasing gameplay and whatnot.

#5: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:08 pm
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FUCK ALL OF YOU GET ON THE HYPE TRAIN!!!

#6: Re: Fallout 4 Author: GaryBusey,

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:40 pm
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Hahaha awesome 'tato!

Believe me, I am totally on board that train brah!

#7: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Artorias, Location: Chicago

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:55 pm
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I'm sort of fluttering along in the slipstream of that hype train, trying not to be sucked in.

#8: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:26 pm
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NO ARTY! GET ON THE TRAIN NOW!

#9: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Nickenstein,

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:55 am
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I missed something off my list of things that disgust me about this:

ZERO rewards/benefits for pre-ordering.

The entire concept of pre-ordering only makes sense in terms of physical goods that require man-hours + factory-time to manufacture. You pre-order the new Nissan model, you get one of the first batch fresh from the Nissan factory, whilst everyone else waits many-many-months for it to become available from a local car dealership, for a MUCH lower price.

But with digital-goods, there are no slow conveyor-belts and welders putting each sellable unit together. Once the first unit (in this case 'the finished game') is built, a trillion units-per-minute can be sent at light speed directly to the customer's stupid gawping face.

And this is why Pre-Orders of games usually have benefits! Because your pre-order money is actually being used by the company to pay their staff to actually make the game they promise will exist. You are funding it to be created, and should be rewarded.

The BOD at Bethesda are probably thinking "Damn! We should have put a £100 price tag on it! These drooling fucking idiots will pay anything if we tickle their nostalgia-button!"
(It's a trick they learned from George Lucas.)

Tune in next week for a rant about why Skyrim is shite and Morrowind is still awesome.

#10: Re: Fallout 4 Author: GaryBusey,

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:40 pm
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Valid arguments Nick, however I am going to poke the bear here: I strongly disagree with you about Skyrim's quality. Easily one of my favourite games of the last decade. I will also disclose that I never did play Morrowind, so I can not make a comparison in that regard.

But absolutely true regarding the pre-order cash, you should get something in exchange at release - in game gear or something. Again, I have no intention of pre-ordering myself, I'll be one of the blokes with stupid gawping faces downloading it after the official release!

- GB

#11: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Artorias, Location: Chicago

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:09 pm
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I myself absolutely loved Skyrim. Was I aware that the voice acting was laughable, the combat was maybe the worst of any game, the glitches were rampant, and the graphics subpar? Yes. That didn't stop me from playing more than a thousand hours of the game. It's a hell of a lot of fun with mods.

#12: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:44 pm
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TOO MUCH TALKING NOT ENOUGH HYPE!!!!!

#13: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Nickenstein,

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:06 am
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Artorias wrote (View Post):

I myself absolutely loved Skyrim. Was I aware that the voice acting was laughable, the combat was maybe the worst of any game, the glitches were rampant, and the graphics subpar? Yes. That didn't stop me from playing more than a thousand hours of the game. It's a hell of a lot of fun with mods.

Damn it, Arty! I said I would rant next week, but you've forced my hand early, so here is a semi-rant whilst the kettle boils... Wink

I've heard that the modded additions are great. It's something I should look into. But mods are external to the 'game Bethesda made and sell', and they do nothing to justify faith in Bethesda.

Now I, much like yourself, have racked up quite a few hours in Skyrim. But it wasn't hours spent enthralled by the game, it was hours spent desperately seeking the joys that the hype-train around me was endlessly tooting about.

My actual issues with Skyrim have nothing to do with graphical fidelity (I think it still looks great) or voice acting or bugs.

My first issue: The dismally dull (and laughably short) story of the main quest. I remember nothing of it! That's how epic and memorable it is. In stark contrast, I remember almost everything from Witcher1&2 as the writing and lore of the world is gripping and superbly told. (A bit like how DS9 and Babylon5 were pretty much the same premise, but one was utterly dull and forgettable with a Star-Trek logo on it, and the other has real memorable depth to it.)

My second issue: Level-Scaling of creatures/enemies. WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK?! What is the bloody point of leveling up in an RPG if your foes level up with you? The thing that inspires a player to desire leveling-up is the knowledge that they stumbled upon on area where they weren't skilled enough, and they must improve and come back later. That process is what creates the failure->failure->failure->improve->failure->improve->SUCCESS->REWARD dynamic that make games both rewarding and memorable. With level-scaling of foes you just get instant gratification every time, which again leads to non-memorable experiences. (Instant gratification has diminishing returns. It rapidly becomes boring, much like watching a repeat of a quiz show when you still remember all the answers from last time.)

Morrowind gave me memorable experiences, because I had to really work for them. When I started playing it, I found a cave with a huge tower of rock inside, and I could see something glimmering at the top. Could I get up there? NOPE. So I did loads of other stuff and spent the level-points on athleticism. I came back days later with my new ability to jump a bit higher. Could I now climb that massive rock formation? NOPE! But I could get half-way up, and I found a load of awesome loot! A few days later I returned after massively leveling up my athleticism again, and finally I got to the top! That glimmering bauble that took me over a week to attain had awesome armour and weaponry inside! failure->failure->failure->improve->failure->improve->SUCCESS->REWARD!!!!!

That was bloody years ago, and I can still talk in great detail about it, because it was a hugely memorable and rewarding experience.

Conversely, when you find a cave with a glimmering-thing in Skyrim, you look for the steps to get up to it, you get the thing within moments of noticing it, and have zero reason to ever return. Zero reasons to remember the cave's location. Zero memories of your efforts to achieve something (because you didn't). And when somebody asks me about the experience, all I can do is shrug and say 'I was in some caves'. YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWN....

#14: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:00 am
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HYPE!!!!!!!

I have nothing relevant to add.

#15: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Artorias, Location: Chicago

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:48 pm
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Pretty sure Nick nailed it. I would discuss it a bit more, but I just got 4 impacted wisdom teeth removed and the painkillers are making me feel like Tater's last post.

#16: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:32 pm
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LOOK AT THE DOG PHYSICS! LOOKS AT HOW THE DOG REACTS LIKE A REAL DOG WOULD!!

HYYYYYYYYYYPE!!!!!

#17: Re: Fallout 4 Author: stunt, Location: Alabama

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:27 pm
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Fallout? What is that? A game about intervention or maybe fighting baldness?

#18: Re: Fallout 4 Author: CaptainSanta,

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:19 am
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Just wanted to add. I'm getting the Collector's edition which is $129.99 and my bro already pre-ordered the Collector's edition. That bastard.

-Santa

#19: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Nickenstein,

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:56 am
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CaptainSanta wrote (View Post):

$129.99

$129.99!

They have released no info. What if they decide that the minimum-spec will be 2 Titan-X cards, 32Gig Sys-ram, and a 12Ghz 16-core cpu? You will need a new machine to boot it up!

(OK, I admit that is an extreme hypothetical scenario, but it demonstrates the principle at play here.)

You will have zero recourse for refunds if your machine is not up to spec, because you won't be able to demonstrate that you purchased based on broken promises, because you are buying before they have presented any of the pertinent information.

#20: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Artorias, Location: Chicago

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:55 am
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Nick has been castrated by his excessively twisted knickers.

#21: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:38 pm
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I don't know about the EU Nick, but over here you can cancel per-orders with literally no repercussions. A common strategy is to preorder, cancel, then preorder again depending on what preorder bonus you want/is announced. You don't put any money down at Gamestop. You just put your name on a list and they give you a claim ticket.

#22: Re: Fallout 4 Author: stunt, Location: Alabama

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:48 pm
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Not around here. Gstop charges $5 or 10% for a pre-order. If you cancel it you get your money back tho. Steam on the other hand, offers refunds.

Refunds on Pre-Purchased Titles
When you pre-purchase a title on Steam (and have paid for the title in advance), you can request a refund at any time prior to release of that title. The standard 14-day/two-hour refund period also applies, starting on the game’s release date.

Hard copies tho...eh..I have never bought a collectors edition. Sure I'll get something, but it'll more than likely sit on a shelf after wards and collect dust. The pip-boy, I admit looks really cool, but not another 60 bucks cool, considering you can still use the pip boy app without the casing, which is all it is, a casing for your smart phone so to speak. Back on topic, I'd hardly, if ever wear it and it just doesn't seem worth it to me. Especially since I've never even played a Fallout game, so I don't even know if I'll like it.

#23: Re: Fallout 4 Author: CaptainSanta,

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:28 pm
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Nick, I'll just cancel the fuck out of the pre-order. Doesn't matter either way. I'm getting this game, and I'm getting it next month. Period. I will have Fallout 4 in my hands on launch day. Along with my fully functional Pip Boy. AndroidFTW.

#24: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:55 am
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E3 this year..........holy fuck-balls! Fallout 4? Dishonored 2?? Dark Souls 3??? CupHead (Looks good for realzies)???? Fucking DOOM 3!?! FIRE EMBLEM FATES!?!?! MOTHERFUCKING KINGDOM HEARTS 3!?!?! MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA!?! SHENMUE 3!! STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT! GODDAMN FF7 REMAKE!!?!?! WHAT???

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#25: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Artorias, Location: Chicago

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:47 pm
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Hype train it is. See y'all on board.

#26: Re: Fallout 4 Author: CaptainSanta,

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:49 pm
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I'm on board.

#27: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:43 pm
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Santa. Why the fuck do you have a pic of the Back to the Future 3 train for a hype train?

At least use something relevant!

#28: Re: Fallout 4 Author: -=EC=-Gimp, Location: Chicago

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:51 pm
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lol i just re-read this thread, you fuckers are nuts.

#29: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:08 pm
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I happen to have requested the days after Fallout 4 as PTO by mistake. You bet your ass I'm gonna bury myself in it for the whole weekend.

#30: Re: Fallout 4 Author: nightmare, Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:52 pm
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For the TATES!

Link

#31: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Nickenstein,

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:22 am
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That's the kind of dedication and ingenuity that always results in something worthwhile! :D

So does the height limit increase as you unlock stuff? I built a 5 storey tower and then it said I was out of range and the workshop menu closed. Or is there a console command to raise the limit?

#32: Re: Fallout 4 Author: nightmare, Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:15 am
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I'm not sure Nick. I don't have the game, so I couldn't tell you.

#33: Re: Fallout 4 Author: GaryBusey,

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:46 pm
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That is pretty epic lol! I've been completely MIA from CoD guys, apologies - every minute of available game time has been devoted to Fallout. Lovin' it!! I'll pop back to the server here sometime soon though, pinky swear.

- GB

[quote="nightmare";p="3990"]For the TATES!

#34: Re: Fallout 4 Author: drhouse5524,

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:02 pm
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my system:
core i5 2400
8gb ddr3
500gb hgst hdd sata 3.
inwin case
600w thermaltake
gtx 580 1.5gb
xfi sound card.

plays fallout 4 just fine. most of the way up. You dont need a 8 core intel and 32gb of ram with 2 titan blacks in sli to play it. I'd say its right up there with GTA V for spec requirements.

#35: Re: Fallout 4 Author: GaryBusey,

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:15 pm
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I was just wondering about the rest of you Fallout junkies - how many hours do y'all have in to the game so far?

I cracked 126 last night.

- GB

#36: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Artorias, Location: Chicago

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:09 am
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Still at 0, sadly enough.

#37: Re: Fallout 4 Author: Spacepotato,

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:05 pm
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142. I quit playing about a month ago as well. Didn't feel it as much as I thought I would. I may go back to it to finish some stuff, but for the most part, it didn't hook me like others did.

#38: Re: Fallout 4 Author: GaryBusey,

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:00 pm
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So thought I'd throw this out there now that the final mission oriented DLC (Nuka World) has been released for a bit - essentially we're at the end of new content for Fallout 4 outside of possibly some more workshop modules. Who all picked it up and put in some time in the Commonwealth? Pros/Cons, what did you love, what did you hate? Curious about other people's take on the game.

Personally I never did play the top down FO1/2/BoS - so I can't compare to those titles, I started with Fallout 3 on PS3, grabbed New Vegas on the same platform, liked it so much I got the PC version as well. I've got about the same amount of time in to both NV and FO4 (~450 hours in each) but there is a hell of a lot more of FO4 I have yet to do including a lot of exploration in Far Harbour and Nuka World yet to go. So I think I personally got a good value for my entertainment dollars invested.

About the only two aspects I wasn't 100% satisfied with were the dialogue controls when interacting with NPC's (they were functional and worked but sometimes seemed a bit vague on what you thought you might say and what you ended up actually saying), and the workshop/settlement construction functionality was (lol was.. still is) pretty clunky. But again, it works just can get a bit frustrating.

Otherwise I can confidently say I thoroughly enjoyed the title, the story, the characters, graphics etc etc. I'll probably invest several more hours/days/months of my life into the Commonwealth. My only regret is it comes at the expense of CoD2 time - sorry guys.

Long-winded post, but again I'm looking for some other opinions - I've certainly read many many mixed reviews on the various aspects of the game.

Cheers,

- GB

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